While we are waiting for the video of the 2013 Russian Championships 105kg session, here are the results for you to discuss.
What do you think? Will he get to worlds? Is he done? Or was it just a solid comeback after an injury (this gets my vote)?
Update: Videos!
Dmitry Klokov’s 186kg Snatch
Dmitry Klokov’s 215kg Clean & Jerk
Here is Alexandr Chepikov’s 188kg Snatch
Snatch
- Alexander Chepikov was first in the Snatch with 188kg.
- Dmitry Klokov came in second with 186kg. Both of them decided to go into the C&J with 215kg openers.
Clean & Jerk
- Klokov opened with 215kg, got it overhead, but lost it forward.
- Second attempt at 215kg for Klokov was a make, but looked kinda hard.
- Missed his 3rd attempt at 220kg, grabbing right right hip/thigh? while walking of the platform.
Results
- 1st: Martin Sabanchiev (23 years old) 405kg total (185+220)
- 2nd: Alexandr Chepikov (23 years old) 404kg total (188 +216)
- 3rd: Dmitry Klokov 401kg total (186+215 with 182/186/x190 + x215/215/x220)
- Andrey Demanov 385kg Total (175 +210), could have pushed Dmitry to 4th had he stuck his 227kg C&J
Videos follow soon hopefully.
As sad as it sounds I think Klokov golden days are over.
Maybe he will get a ticket to world but I think Russia is going to put up their new generation
It takes a while to get back up to those weights we are used to seeing him make. Especially after an injury and not just a break like he took after Beijing.
I don’t think his career is over, but he’s definitely at an age where he probably won’t reach the peak he was in around 2k11 worlds/pre-london. I expect him to show up at the olympics/worlds and possibly even medal, but he’s no longer at the tip of the top.
Those numbers are just so far off of his pre-London numbers. Plus he’s too old to fully recover… 🙁
Hymn be interesting too see the videos. Don’t lose the faith just yet in our favourite lifter. If anyone can bounce back he can. I wonder how long he was “injured” for and when he started back full time training?
So what are the chances that he will go to worlds? I remember Akkaev saying something about certain people not wanting Klokov to go even if he won, and he didn’t…
I know many studies have shown 25 to be the peak age for competition weightlifting. I have no expectations for Dmitry at this point in his career, only the enjoyment of his lifts. Sometimes the best weightlifter is the one who is having the most fun.
First of all, I would like to say that i like Klokov, he’s one of my favourite lifter, and i have a lot of respect for all these lifter, but these totals are a little bit low aren’t they???
385 KG for Demanov who is in 4th place tht’s not even Aukhadov total (388) at the Europeans.
What the hell is going on in the 105 category???
Well, in interview, Akkaev has told that current generation of Russian lifters in 105 especially is not good, the problem is, that he said that Klokov and Akkaev are better than they are, and now we Klokov not being as good as we thought. I would really like to Akkaev, dont get me wrong, i respect him and is a very good lifter, but in every his interview i read, he is bashing everyone, telling how better he and Klokov. I would really to see him prove it. Saying that Bejanyan is not really good at last interveiw really pissed me off. For God’s sake, the guy has a world record. Akkaev hasn’t.
Plus Bedzanyan lifted a very strong 230 C and J at recent Europeans
Demanov moved from 94 only now to 105 so I imagine its part of that. You cant expect to lift too bigger weights immediately even with a higher bodyweight, it takes some time.
My concern is the audience, the cell phone ringing, the laughs right before Klokovs C and J, its a shame and these people should be ashamed of themselves. Disrespectful.
I agree with every point except for the audience. Sure it is disrespectful for a cell phone ringing and occasional talking (laughing), but it is also the responsibility and skill of the lifter to be able to focus on the lift at hand despite distraction. Especially for an elite lifter like Klokov who has been to hundreds of large events with thousands of spectators who aren’t one hundred percent quiet.
I don’t think he missed his lifts due to the audience. Not even a little bit. If you watch any of his other competitions, especially the Qatar 2005 Worlds, there is far more yelling/talking/laughing than this one, and he did far better.
Most of the lifters are taking a year off after the olympic’s and is not normal back 100% before the world’s 2013, if they get back in 2013. Most wont be back before the next season in 2014, that makes room for new athlete’s to go for the europiean and the world. The old athlete’s that cant make the next team of olympic’s in 2016, is only geting in to the team if they can help the nation to get 4 lifter’s to the olympic’s at 2016.
Athlete’s that is now 28 to 29 year’s is the oldest that can make the team in Rio, and will then be 31 or 32 year’s at the games in Rio. Older then 28 or 29 year’s is going to have a hard time to keep up, most lifters in 105 and 105+ can be at the best up to 31 to 33 year’s. But cant have to many competitions each year as before, Ronny Weller told that he was not able to keep up before the 2000 olympic’s when he startes to geting older. And did only have one or two competitions a year when he was able to lift 100%.
It’s pretty crazy to think some of the world’s better 77-94s can put up these kind of numbers
77?
175 in snatch and 210 in clean and jerk are the records in 77, and it is close to the result of klokov 186-215.
Klokov didn’t put up pre-Beijing numbers in 2010. He was coming off a break. Now he’s coming off an injury so it’ll take awhile befor he’s hitting his usual numbers.
Well for Demanov this was probably his first competition in his weight class probably hasn’t had a lot of time for his strength to match his increased body weight. Also from the looks of his VK page it looks like he has recently become a father. Safe to say he has had a lot on his plate, looking forward to see what numbers he can pull in the future.
Sure, an injury is one thing, but I also think YouTube may have misled us in relation to what kind of competition numbers lifters will put up. Watching the Broz guys, everyone would talk about how they put up huge numbers in the gym but not in competition. But as more and more lifters post huge lifts on their youtube channels, we’re seeing that the simple truth is that WLing is a sport where you might hit a HUGE lift in the gym, but still not be able to hit 10kgs less consistently. This is for a number of reasons: lifters train at heavier weights, but also WLing is a much chancier sport than PLing. Nerves can cause you to miss a lift that is well within your ability due to a mess up in technique. Klokov puts up huge numbers in training, but he’s always had his bad performances… Shankle out-totaled him before. I think we’re all just realizing that probably tons of lifters have been hitting 5, 10 kgs over WRs in training halls.
This is Klokov’s first national competition, I’m aware of, where he hasn’t hit a 420+ total. He’s moving slow in the vids too.
04 412.5
05 442.5
05 426
06 425
07 421
08 430
11 427
I think the problem for Klokov is that (judging from the Akkaev interview) officials in the Russian weightlifting federation think he’s a spent force and want him out, and his results in this competition only offer their view more support. He placed third, meaning that with Bedzhanyan and Akkaev, there are four Russian 105s who, on paper, are better choices for the worlds. If Akkaev doubted he would get a place on the worlds team even after winning the nationals, what are his chances of being able to compete on an international stage now?
Don’t get me wrong, Klokov is my favourite lifter and it’d be great to see him return to the world stage and finally win a second gold, but I just don’t see how it can happen this year. The question isn’t whether he’ll be able to fully recover from his injury and come back to form, the question is even if he does manage to, will anyone give him a chance to compete?
Also, isn’t this exactly what happened to Chigishev in 2012?
Nop, Chigishev got a lot of opportunities from 2009 to last competiton before the olympic’s 2012. But lost to Albegov and Chingiz Mogushkov in 2011(did not go) and 2012 national. Chigishev never got back after 2008 olympic’s. And the best he did vas 202kg-237kg in total from 2009 to 2012.
I could imagine Klokov didn’t have enough time to recover and get back to his old results. In addition his coach might have decided not to prepare very much for this competition. The world’s count much more and I think he will be in much better shape by that time.
I could imagine Klokov didn’t have enough time to recover and get back to his old results. In addition his coach might have decided not to prepare very much for this competition. The world’s count much more and I think he will be in much better shape by that time.
It’s really a shame that the 2011’s world’s wasn’t the olympics for Klokov and Akkaev. I am pretty sure that they won’t make till Rio, and if they did there will be younger and stronger lifters to win the gold.
Sadly, Klokov does not look the same. His numbers are a bit off from before and he looks way too subdued. It hurts to see him like this. He is still my favorite lifter.
Dont Count him out just yet. In 2005 he won the world cup with 419…just 7 months earlier he totaled 400 at the arnold classic. He has 5 months until the worlds and given that he just started back to training in January/ Feb (and he had an injury) I bet he totals in the 420’s.
Well, he’s only 30 or so….there have been plenty of guys who have medaled at the Olympics in their 30’s….at HW since 1992 you have about 4 examples….and many more have competed at the games. Klokov can still have plenty left in the tank.