With a little over a week to go until the 2014 Worlds, let’s have a prediction poll.
Your Podium Predictions in the Comments.
Here are mine:
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Takes the top 10 or so names from the current Start List (Russian Team is not final).
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Fun idea! Counting days now…
Add Daniyar Ismailov to 69 kg poll prediction. He did 336 kg total in receny days. He deserves a nomination I think.
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Thanks a lot.
What about Adam Maligov?
He is not on the start list
What that mean? He will compete or what?
The final Russian team won’t be decided until the 6th (I think) but him being absent from the start list means it’s very unlikely he will compete.
Personally think Salimi will struggle with the pressure of having Lovchev so close to him after he’s been extremely consistent in competition all year with very good numbers. Also If it comes down to the last Clean and Jerk as a decider i’ll always back Lovchev who is far more athletic. Salimi always looks dead after his 2nd C+J.
very excited. Lovchev is a gamer.. Strong mental competitor.
Dont count out Zielinski in the 94s!
I’m going with Ivan Markov as a darkhorse in the 85s. He looked great at Euros and with Apti’s status unknown after the injury it could be a tight battle this time. He’s gotta step up big on the C&J
Not just a darkhorse at all! Finally got his long awaited “big comp” title at Euros 2014 (after only Apti standing in his way the last two comps, Worlds and Euros 2013) and he is ready for more. My favourite if he can keep his mental focus especially in the snatch!
I still remember Markov coming pretty close to clean & jerking 215 at 2013 Europeans, so hopefully he can clean & jerk that or more at worlds this year. In the snatch he’s at least good for 175, which will help keep him in the mix for a medal.
Tian Tao, if he can snatch high 160s on his 2nd/3rd attempt and get that 220, he has a high chance of gold.
Agree with Tian Tao in 85, then Zielinsky in 94, Nurudinov in105 and Salimi in super. Among the women I think Turieva and Kashirina are gold medal winners, not so sure about the rest of the classes there.
Let’s see how accurate that will be.
I will do my prediction when the final startlist comes out lol. Last year I missed the winner in almost every category :O
Anybody knows China’s final team? They still have to scrap a guy (probably Zhiyong) and a girl…
Ciricu, one of my favorite lifters, but I didnt see him compete for a long time, so its not wise to make any bold predictions, tho 94 isnt 85 obviously, so he could very well medal
I agree about Ciricu. Many seem to forget that he was the bronze medalist at London with a 407kg total, just 2kg behind Aleksandr Ivanov’s 409kg total. He has a big clean & jerk, so he could very well grab a clean & jerk medal at worlds if not a total medal too.
Based on the Nationals results and entry totals, I assume Shi (69), Tan (48) and Deng (58) will be reserve.
Shi because of Liao Hui and not mentioning his name in the press release.
Tan Yayun didn’t make the podium in April with 193 while Yang Li (196) got second behind Tian Yuan.
And Deng Mengrong simply because she was a 63 the past few years. While she won the Nationals as 58 with 233 it was only on bw with Zhou Jun equaling. The latter confirmed her form with 234 just a few weeks ago. Since she’s still so young my hunch is they want to build her international confidence up again after London. But it could go either way here really since on paper they’re equal.
Thanks. If Yelisseyeva keeps her AG form, we might actually have a contest in the 48’s.
Om Yun Chol / Kim Un Guk / Liao Hui / Daniel Godelli / — / Aleksander Ivanov / Ilya Ilyin / Alexey Lovchev
Don’t dare to predict 85 .. there are like 6 guys who can take this on a good day 😀 If I had to choose it would be Georgi Markov though. Thinking about the 85s and I’m having goosebumps again… better pack an extra pair of underpants on competition day.
Too late, Georgi Markov was banned for life. But his brother Ivan is going to be at the worlds 😉
You’re absolutely right, haha 😀 Corrected it
I didn’t know they were actual brothers…interesting.
A snatch medal for Mendes? Lolz. He’ll probably go 167/196
afaik, he was notorious for competition performances much below his training best numbers. So yeah, somewhere there.
This isn’t two years ago. He did 180/200 at the Brazilian nationals.
He has a very realistic chance to win a snatch bronze in this class.
I hope he does! I want pat to become a competition threat. He’s like Hysen Puiaku it seems: huge gym numbers but doesn’t translate that to the stage. I’m always tripped out by guys like Albegov that have small numbers in the gym but show up and win with huge numbers.
True, but many lifters perform much better at their respective national meets then they do at international meets. He’ll have to snatch at least 185 to have any hope of getting a bronze in the snatch. A 180 snatch won’t get him anything.
My (crazy) guesses:
105+ Lovchev win by BW. Salimi will fail the Snatch WR.
105 Ilya will open the CJ with 235 and end above 240. Nurudinov wins if healty.
94 Ivanov, no doubt.
85 Will be fun, is my only guess ;). At least 2 WR attempts if Aukhadov is healty.
77 I don’t know about them.
69 No question. 200 CJ and WR Total.
62 and 56: Also no question. No WR will be set. (Too much after Asian Games, hope I’m wrong)
Also, the craziest thing that would happen is: Tian Tao attempts 222+ for Gold after a 165 snatch, or Ilya attempting for 245+ for Gold after making only his opener (185) in snatch. Is shitty think like this because Ilya is my favorite lifter.
Highly doubt Ilya will get above 240. He is going to have to cut a fuckton.
Then again I’m a David bedzhanyan shill.
Tian Tao won’t be doing 222, and he can certainly snatch more than 165 by how easy his misses at 168 were. I imagine the plan at Incheon was 165, 168, then try to match/beat what the other guys did which would have been at attempt at 171 or 172 which he probably would have missed.
Still I’m not sure how he or any of the repeat performers are going to do, he did match the world record with that 218, and it might be asking too much to expect that level of clean and jerking again so soon.
The 85 kg class seems extremely tight and there is no sure winner or even favourite. The medals are up for grabs and many lifters in the starting field (as of writing this) have the potential to win bronze, silver and even gold.
With that kind of competition I don’t think Tian Tao is going to back down from a world record attempt. Reading the interview with his trainer that is posted on this site, it seems they had an aggressive plan at the Asian games, even to the point of going for a kg more in the last clean and jerk than was needed for the win. The athlete and trainer both seem very competitive. Add to this the chance to set a new record and the 220 kg Weibo greeting after Incheon (can be found here too).
Personally, I think Tian Tao is more fired up from Incheon, than tired and ready to do a token performance. I hope I am right, would be nice to see the 220 kg barrier at least attempted, maybe broken.
lu xiaojun didnt take part 🙁
well tian tao is having high chance, liao hui’s performance after his drug ban is very very impressive.
I’m surprised to see so many people competing at both Asians and Worlds with them being only about six weeks apart. Travelling away and back home internationally twice in six weeks has got to be tough on training and I don’t know how they’ll manage to ‘stay peaked’ for two of the largest competitions in the world. Especially as no one took it easy at Asians with all the records broken. Lu Xiaojun didn’t have the best time at Incheon and he isn’t a young buck like all these teenagers, he is over 30.
Exactly. I am curious to see how the athletes from Incheon will perform here.
Where is Adam Maligov?
dude, if you only could read…
Why is Ilja in 105?
85 is going to epic! I think we’re going to see Tao, Markov and Aukhadov neck and neck, but my money is on Apti.
You must not have paid attention to Ilya over the past year, he has been training up for the 105 class.
A lot of the weight classes are going to be super close. 85 is tough to call with all these guys, and Apti has been injured so who knows if he’s still capable of beating everyone with ease.
So many of these are a hard choice. Like the big guns at 75 all have competition best totals of about 1kg within each other. So many classes appear at first glance to have a fairly obvious choice but then you realise it would only take one missed lift and for any one of three others to make their lifts and it changes the whole game. Ilya could take glorious victory or not even medal, but with his champion attitude and being on home turf, there’s no way he’s not going home with something, and I think it might just be gold. It’s going to be nice bragging rights for Nurudinov if he manages to beat Ilya though.
The poll results are looking like people are choosing pretty obvious dominators (like Liao Hui) with barely any other votes, and then less popular classes, particularly female, look like they have people just voting on names they have heard of. Which in some cases makes no sense because they have competition totals 20+kgs below the actual likely medallists. People also seem to be voting based on the start list, like Godelli’s 372 entry total, even though his best competition total is 349 set only seven months ago. And if he really is going to do 33kg better in 7 months of training, I imagine he’ll be ‘randomly’ selected for some testing…
About Ilyin not going above 240 on the clean & jerk because he has to drop a lot of weight. Maybe… be we should still consider that (1) he has done over 240 in the past at a weight close to 105 (2) I honestly don’t see him missing a clean with less than 250, dude is a clean machine AND he has jerked at least 245-250 from racks so he is physically capable of a 245-250 clean & jerk if everything clicks (3) He hasn’t posted any videos recently… which can either be REALLY good or really bad. I would tend (or at least like) to think that it’s the former and that he will do something special in the C&J. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID… a sub-par performance is still possible because (1) he hasn’t competed at the international level in a while (2) an injury is always possible (3) we don’t know how much strength he will drop between training and competition (by making weight and “other factors”) (4) we haven’t seen any recent lifts from him, so hard to tell in what shape he is in. And the home turf factor could play either way…. could be an adrenalin boost or a pressure situation.
He’s shown in the past that he is a VERY strong performer under pressure. Dude lifted like an absolute robot in London, smoked a WR like he was taking out the trash.
Even if he loses…who cares…the guy has won two gold medals in the Olympics and world championships in two weight classes!
I think he’s going to hit big numbers: 190/245
He himself probably cares a lot
I get that but after a year lay-off and moving up a weight class, even for Illya, to expect a world record and a championship after two Olympics and several world championships (IE he has a lot of wear and tear) is asking a lot. I do believe he’ll get the world record clean and jerk and total by the 2016 Olympics. It just may not be at this competition. If he does here he cements his place as probably one of the top 5 greatest lifters of all time.
Lovchev will beat Salimi.
I haven’t heard any information about Nurudinov who was my favorite in the 105 so I can’t bet on him. Ilya is going to cnj a new WR and win if Nurudinov is injured or not in form. No 245 or 250 “just” 239-240.
Ivanov probably beats Zielinski because he isn’t there yet – although he’s coming.
85 kg is Markov for me. The russians just travelling through of this category but Markov will stay and get stronger.
In the absence of Zhou Lulu,Kashirina will win easily.
In 75 kg I am hoping Kang is coming thru at last. She is my girl for the title.
“Ilya is going to cnj a new WR and win if Nurudinov is injured or not in form. No 245 or 250 “just” 239-240″ … isn’t the world record 241?
It is 238 David Bedzhanyan
I am just saying because some of us are already talking about such numbers.
that was a Russian record not a world record I think.
Hoping Bedzhanyan will take the C&J
I wouldn’t mind it 🙂 I am afraid that’s a bit unlikely according to the past international appearances of Benzi. He hasn’t been in top form in abroad so far.
I think people are dismissing Albegov too easily. Salimi won’t attempt a record with Albegov and Lovchev there, not unless he needs it to have a lead.
I think it’s the same as with Apti or Nurudinov at the moment. We heard that they got injured. Now there is the possibility that they got over it but it always takes time and that time comes off from the preparation. So probably that’s the background.
I see him in the polls, but no mention of Kwang Song Kim in your 77kg prediction. He hit 363 at the asian games, and i would bet that wasn’t fully peaked. I’m going to guess he might add 5+ kilos for worlds. Godelli is good, but only hit 349 at the european championships and was able to get 358 at his national games. That still doesn’t bear Kim. I think It will be a good battle with lu out of the picture, but I think kim will edge Godelli for the gold.
I think Zhong Guoshun is getting dismissed too easily here. This man has done up to 370 in nationals before.
Apparently, his coach (Yu Jie) says he frequently hits 375 in training nowadays but you never know what he’ll do in competition.
Adam Maligov is injured and he will miss this champioship
Andrei Rybakou most probably win 85kg snatch! I think he will get gold in 177-8kg.
Someone make 219 kg in C&J.
I do not see anyone gets close to the total WR though. 175 + 215 may win the competition but does not cut the mustard. Someone should get lucky and do 180 and then try for 215 to get the record.
Iranian News: Moulaei had a surgury on his knee. He did not have the money (about $4,000) to pay for expenses so they kept him in the hospital. Iranian federation said that is too much of expense and did not pay for operation. His facebook
https://www.facebook.com/bahador.moulaei?fref=browse_search
I cant believe for this kind of athlete like Moulaei they dont have shitty 4000$… this is rediculous. I hope there is rich people who will help Moulaei to get healthy again.
Let me say it this way, this is not like he is that poor and can’t pay that money, (he is not rich but still I’m sure he can pay 4000$ if he wants) he didn’t pay because he didn’t have to ! he got injured in national camp and the federation was responsible for that. he knew if he pays the money he will never get it back. after all they let him go after few hours but it was still shameful.
Reference to your news source?
As the final startlist is out and the competitions start tomorrow, i’ll give my predictions:
Women’s 48kg:
1-Tan Yayun
2-Margarita Yelisseyeva
3-Sibel Ozkan
If Tan screws-up her snatches Yelisseyeva will be close, but Tan’s C&J is too good anyway. Bronze will be between Ozkan and Khamsri, as I have absolutely no faith in Taylan after her dismal performance in the Europeans.
Women’s 53kg:
1-Zulfiya Chinshanlo
2-Hsu Shu-Ching
3-Li Yajun
Very difficult to predict the top-3 here. Yajun can for sure beat the Snatch WR and her C&J is also solid, but I don’t know how she will react if Chinshanlo and Hsu force her to attempt C&J’s close to 130. All depends on Chinshanlo’s snatch, because despite what happened at the AG, I doubt that Hsu can C&J consistently above 130.
Women’s 58kg:
1-Ri Jong Hwa
2-Mengrong Deng
3-Kuo Hsing-Chun
Ri Jong Hwa is the favourite, although her snatch can cause trouble for herself. If Kuo Hsing-Chun had last year’s form I would’ve tipped her for gold, but her AG performance was very unreliable. Mengrong Deng well…I just don’t see her as a winner.
Women’s 63kg:
1-Lin Tzu-Chi
2-Tima Turieva
3-Deng Wei
Alongside the men’s 85, THE competition of the championships! The startlist is so deep that I don’t know where to start, but when I tip someone like Jo Pok Hyang, who C&J’s above 140 to finish outside of the podium, everything’s said. I think that Lin will prevail in the end, as she’s just such a force…
Women’s 69kg:
1-Un Hui Ryo
2-Zhazira Zhapparkul
3-Youjuan Chen
Any of these 3 can win. I didn’t know Chen, but i did nome research and I think that she’s about the same level as Ryo. Zhapparkul too, considering that she did 118/145 at the AG weighting in at 69.8, which was 1kg more than Ryo’s silver medal effort in the 69’s. I put the PRK lifter ahead more by a question of status than anything else.
Women’s 75kg:
1-Kim Un Ju
2-Nadezhda Evstyukhina
3-Kang Yue
This is tough. I think that if Kim keeps her AG form, she will win. Kang and Evstyukhina can both total above 290, but the russian has been facing huge snatch problems since 2011(only won last year because Zubova got DQ’ed), and Kang Yue seems to have the Klokov syndrome, finishing in the podium with great consistency but almost never winning.
Women’s +75kg:
1-Tatiana Kashirina
2-Meng Suping
3-Chitchanok Pulsabsakul
Let’s see if Kashirina wants WR’s or will just do enough to win. Meng Suping is a good C&J’er, but that won’t be enough. Interesting battle for 3rd between Pulsabsakul and Konovalova in the cards also.
Men’s 56kg:
1-Om-Yun Chol
2-Kim Thach Tuan
3-Long Qingquan
Om-Yun Chol’s C&J is simply too good. Wouldn’t surprise me if he totals above 300 and breaks the C&J WR. Then there is a 3 horse race for 2nd, where I think Thach as an advantage because of his snatch.
Men’s 62kg:
1-Kim Un-guk
2-Oscar Figueroa
3-Ding Jianjun
Overwhelming favouritism for Kim here, with Figueroa’s C&J probably securing him the silver. Then I have huge doubts between Jianjun and Mosquera, because if the colombian improved a little bit from the Jr. Worlds he can be a contender. Irawan could also grab Bronze, but in the AG he didn’t seem to be there yet.
Men’s 69kg:
1-Liao Hui
2-Kim Myong Hyok
3-Oleg Chen
Liao wins easily, despite his hand problem…probably the C&J WR will fall. I think that Kim will be his closest rival, although I don’t think that he’ll snatch as much as he did in the AG. Oleg Chen probably will go for gold in the snatch, but his C&J makes anything more than a bronze very difficult to achieve.
Men’s 77kg:
1-Zhang Guoshun
2-Kim Kwang Song
3-Erkand Qerimaj
I don’t know Zhang, but he’s from China and has a tradition to keep. Will be very close between him and Kim. 3rd will be up for grabs, but I think that Qerimaj can get it if he avoids his usual technical mistakes. And yes, as I said in the World’s topic, I think that Godelli’s entry total is nowhere real.
Men’s 85kg:
1-Apti Aukhadov
2-Tian Tao
3-Ivan Markov
I’ll have skip university that day…lol. I think that Apti’s consistency in both the snatch and C&J will prevail, despite his recent injury. Tian probably will improve his snatch, but Apti is not Rostami that misses every lift over 210, so 218 might not be enough this time. Markov, Sa and Rostami will also be in contention for a medal.
Men’s 94kg:
1-Adrian Zielinski
2-Vladimir Sedov
3-Anatoli Ciricu
Without Ivanov, the competition is very wide open, and I can’t pick a favourite. Zielinski moved up a weightclass and his results until now, altough solid, weren’t that impressive; Sedov never regained that 2008/9 level anymore; Ciricu doesn’t compete for two years and has a very low entry total (can be tactics, but he really risked ending up in group B), and Chumak was always close to mediocrity in international competition, but has to be considered due to his result in the national championships. This prediction was more by feeling than anything else.
Men’s 105kg:
1-Ilya Ilyin
2-Ruslan Nurudinov
3-David Bedzhanyan
My idea is: If Ilya never lost in international competition, it would be very ironic if that happened the first time he competes at home. And to be fair, I don’t think that’s going to happen. For me will be shocking if the C&J WR DOES NOT fall. I hope that Nurudinov can be at least decent after being injured, so that we can have a good fight.
Men’s +105kg:
1-Behdad Salimi
2-Aleksei Lovchev
3-Ruslan Albegov
Well, I think that the russians are very close to Salimi, but just won’t be able to beat him yet. I hope Albegov appears in top shape, so that this will be one of the best +105kg competitions in the last few years. Probably records won’t be broken, but I can see the top 3 doing +460.