Meanwhile in Italy …
Dmitry Klokov is currently (7-10.11) giving his first seminar outside of Russia.
Here is a video from reader Gian.
- Power Snatch with Pause at Knees 155kg
- Snatch Deadlift 225kg x5
- “Trapi” Snatch Grip High Pulls 110kg
- Klokov Press 110kg x3
Here is Dmitry’s video.
Also attending is two time CrossFit Games champion Annie Thorisdottir.
Some nice lifts starting at 6 minutes into the video. 180kg Thrusters anybody?
Update: Another video from Dmitry. This one shows the Overhead Duck Jumps he showed us before.
is this a seminar or is he just lifting in front of a crowd? Isn’t he supposed to give some info on how to lift, technique etc ? Or am i just talking out of my ass?
I think there is a coaching part as well as an exhibit part. The videos above show just day 1 of 3.
It’s a seminar. People can just look at his trainings or be coached by him.
I went there to see him training and to be coached by him. Although I’m not a weightlifter but an hammer thrower I’m a big fan of Dmitry!
The coaching was really interesting! Hearing his opinions about snatch and clean and jerk was amazing.
He speaks a little english so there was a translator with him.however It was easy to understand the suggestions he gave me.
The seminar was not expensive as someone wrote here.
To me it worth every euros spent 😉
Glad to hear you had a good time. And thanks for the video.
it’s a pleasure to share these kind of things with people who really appreciate them 🙂
I can’t speak for the european seminars, but I checked the cost of the seminars with vasily in the US and they are minimum 400 and up.
For Italy it was a lot chaeper.
Coaching was 150euros (about 2hours), see him training was 50euros(1 hour and 30min) (taxes excluded and in Italy they are Fuc..ing high)
The Apti & Vasiliy seminars at Catalyst and Waxman’s were advertised for $150 (before they were cancelled due to Apti’ injury)
I believe those were a whole weekend too. Wait, Apti got injured???
can you elaborate on what you mean by his opinions on snatch and clean? What kind of suggestions did he make??
I love klokov, he is awesome. And his charisma is definitely something to be admired. Not to mention I think he is a genius for capitalizing on the Crossfit craze and make serious $$$. However, no disrespect intended, but if you are paying this guy $500 for a seminar then you are not the brightest. It’s pretty evident via this video that Klokov can’t speak English, and if that’s the case, how can he coach you (i wouldn’t pay $500 to have an interpreter coach me). And of course I’m relating this to the english speaking countries he is visiting, if you speak Russian then I’d say it’s probably worth it.
Weightlifting is not that much of a mystery 🙂 I wouldn’t pay for technical or any other advise 500 dollars either. I think it’s mostly about meeting and being together with Klokov himself. I can understand if young fans pay for it. If you want to learn just go to a weightlifting gym anywhere in a country like Russia,Turkey,Bulgaria or even Hungary.There are lots of talented coaches almost everywhere. If he can make money and make fans happy at the same time – that’s just great. Although it’s funny to see that people pay that much for it in western countries.
I just don’t think there is that sort of access to high level coaching/lifting over here. It’s unfortunate that the sport doesn’t have the same popularity, but hopefully that’s changing. That’s where these seminars can help or at least I hope they help expose the sport more and help people with their lifts.
If the price at Waxmans gym was that low it makes me think some of the venues may be over charging. Which is a little disappointing. I guess it’s still cheaper to go to a seminar here than fly to Europe haha
Everyone on Youtube needs to stop with the comments about how CF is stupid and how Klokov shouldn’t be doing it. HE obviously doesn’t think so, and he’s just having fun and enjoying his time there by getting in the CF’ers’ element.
IMO it isnt that CF is stupid, its just the idea of doing these complex movements like snatch or clean and “jerk” in higher number of reps sacrificing the technique (which will happen even to otherwise flawless lifters technique once the fatigue kicks in) that is stupid. Just like a weightlifter will have a good laugh watching PL squat, the same goes to CF. If you like CF, then good for you (I mean generally), I dont. But I would suggest CF adjusting their WL stuff somewhat so it isnt so ridiculous. Like when they do that clean and jerk ledder, thats actually fine, you get 1 or 2 shots at the weight, you have some rest between attempts…
Good points. CF is more of a social trend than an actual sport, at least for now. Focus is on quantity rather than quality, judging criteria and rules are cloudy at best. People don’t care about perfecting a small number of movements over several years and becoming masters of those movements. That’s too much work, so uncool. What they care about is how many reps they can do with s**t technique until they pass out (hum, those nice “Pukie The Clown” T-shirts) so that they can impress their friends on the social networks. In other words, “fast-food-exercise” (in a way, a WOD is just like the “day’s special”). In a few years, when people realize their results have been the same for ages and they’re not making any progress, they’ll just move on to the next fad.
As for Klokov, he’s just capitalizing on the CF bandwagon before he retires. Nothing to see here.
And as for the benefits of CF to OL’ers…even if you think you know what you’re doing (offseason and GPP only, knowledgable trainer, etc…)…just look at what happened to Oksana Slivenko at this WC in Poland.
It is actually interesting: for many years pure strength has had to struggle – more in America, but not only – against the harmful influence of (some, not all) Bodybuilding methods. Now a new struggle begins, this time against WODs and the CF mentality.
It seems to me that Cross Fit is for people who aren’t good enough to do weightlifting 🙂 They say it has a big positive impact on weightlifting because it publicizes and if it’s true that’s great. I would be devastated if this beautiful sport would fall down like wrestling did. Every help is appreciated. But this is for average athletes with average talent who have stamina above all. I couldn’t watch a single competition from start to the end yet. Just too boring for me.
I would say that these people indeed are not good enough for WL, but not necessarily due to the lack of talent or strength etc., but the lack of commitment. WL is such a demanding sport with hardly anything to show for it other than the kilos you can snatch or clean and jerk. And even these gains come rather slowly and it takes genuine hard work week after week, month after month, for years. Dont hate me my american colleagues, but there is little surprise to me that this sport comes and invaded the world from USA. Thats just the culture (not always, but in many cases) of the easy way, the popular way, the cool. The superficial if you like. While weightlifting is a sport of substance. And sadly (for me), Europe has adopted too many of these idols coming from overseas, including CF. Now we even hear how CF is good, even vital for WL and its future. Well guess what, maybe in other countries, but I doubt its the case in traditional WL nations like Russia, Greece, Bulgaria, Poland or even Hungary (btw grobpote, I didnt realize you are from there, here is a neighbour from north 🙂
Just like powerlifting is not a real sport for me, crossfit wont be one either. Feel free to disagree 🙂
Are you from Slovakia? Wow, how many times I competed there! Loved the knedli and the Deli chocolate 🙂 That was in the time of Československo. I broke the hungarian youth record in Kosice – very nice memories 🙂
I sadly heard Viktor Guman passed away. We knew each other and of course I knew his son too. Very good snatcher ,he was.
Yes I am, To be honest I came relatively late to WL, so its not that I dont know who the Gumans are. but I only recently discovered the WL scene in my country (though already made contact with our coaches in London and now in Wroclaw). Great that you have so many fond memories about competing here, I read an interview with Guman jr. recently and he said what everyone who is inside the WL world must feel, that this sport is almost like a close knit family. Do you live in UK now?
Yes I do. I came here four years ago with my wife. I’ve been feeling a bit sad since the end of the last century because when I competed in the 90’s the weightlifting scene was very much alive in Slovakia and it started fading after 2000 just like in Hungary. I lived very near to the northern border about 30 km from Komarom. Which is the smaller half of the bigger town. Your side called Komarno but I suppose you know that. So we were like brother towns, areas with the slovak weightlifting community. They came to us we went to them every year. Man, most of the guys even spoke hungarian. Of course I visited the czech part too. Praha was very nice. I miss those years 🙂
Agreed. Klokov could very well be reaching the end of his internationally-competitive weightlifting career, but he still brings world-class strength and technique to the table. If anything, Crossfit needs people like him. It is true that most Crossfitters lack weightlifting skill and form, but they’ll never improve unless people like him, who actually know what they’re doing, join up and coach them.
But what did Annie actually ask him? 🙂