May I ask how this is fake? That is clearly four reds (200+20 from barbell) and two greens (40) on each side of the barbell, which equals 260. In their earlier video, he also very clearly rack jerked 220 wearing the same clothing (same session?). At one of their Lu and Liao seminars, Liao mentioned that his all time best front squat was 255, so 260 is not out of the question at all. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
Msays
I believe the arguments for ‘fake’ are that some of the reds are 2.5kg air filled technique plates
There was a similar ‘joke’ video of a female lifter squatting a large looking amount then pressing the bar back into the rack while she giggled… that was certainly a bit of fun but not sure about this one personally… I want to believe 🙂
Crzyasiansays
The bright red plates (15kg training plates) serve as spacers to put more weight at the end of the bar to create an even more intense “whip”. That’s how a lot of high level Olympians train. They place heavy plates on the outside to train timing. So that makes it 260kg ?
Gregory Fostersays
This would explain the 220 jerk, which would in fact then be 180. Much more reasonable, if not a little disappointing. I knew in my gut there was no way it was 220. I wonder if Ma Strength just screwed up the description or was having a laugh.
Edit: Crap, but I’m looking at it again and it seems like it’s more than 180. Damn, I don’t know what to believe any more!!!!
Victorsays
The Ma Strength description clearly said that Chinese athletes build a 15-20kg lead on the rack jerk over the clean and jerk and it’s accepted that Liao Hui has clean and jerked 210kg so his max jerk should be 225-230kg when training overweight. I don’t understand why people think that might be fake or need “explaining.” I also don’t understand why people doubt the 260 front squat since it is labelled as 260 and his max used to be 255 before. People are guessing what the plates are like it’s an unlabeled random video.
If the Chinese really wanted make a fake video to intimidate the crap out of people, then painting some red weights the same color or using green plates that look green instead of blue should not be any kind of hassle at all.
I agree, why lie about the lifts of the most dominant male lifter out there? He’s got no competition in his weight class and has nothing to prove. I’m just a bit obsessive about counting the weight on the bar. 🙂
I’m really psyched for Rio, if anyone can shatter some barriers it’s Liao Hui.
I agree, why lie about the lifts of the most dominant male lifter out there? He’s got no competition in his weight class and has nothing to prove. I’m just a bit obsessive about counting the weight on the bar. 🙂
I’m really psyched for Rio, if anyone can shatter some barriers it’s Liao Hui.
Gregory Fostersays
I meant no disrespect, and I never believed the Chinese team were intentionally fooling viewers—just that there had been some misinterpretation by Ma Strength. I fully believe Liao Hui can jerk 220. My disbelief in this particular instance came from the lack of bar bend and the apparent ease with which he re-racked it. I would love nothing more than to see Liao keep smashing records!
Victorsays
It’s my understanding (though I’m not 100% sure) that Ma Strength is an insider and they know what’s going on when they take the videos. I don’t think they count plates to determine the weight on a video that they just come across. I think they are told that Liao Hui is about to jerk 220, so they film and then use it as an inspirational/instructional video.
Victorsays
It’s my understanding (though I’m not 100% sure) that Ma Strength is an insider and they know what’s going on when they take the videos. I don’t think they count plates to determine the weight on a video that they just come across. I think they are told that Liao Hui is about to jerk 220, so they film and then use it as an inspirational/instructional video.
Gregory Fostersays
I meant no disrespect, and I never believed the Chinese team were intentionally fooling viewers—just that there had been some misinterpretation by Ma Strength. I fully believe Liao Hui can jerk 220. My disbelief in this particular instance came from the lack of bar bend and the apparent ease with which he re-racked it. I would love nothing more than to see Liao keep smashing records!
Victorsays
The Ma Strength description clearly said that Chinese athletes build a 15-20kg lead on the rack jerk over the clean and jerk and it’s accepted that Liao Hui has clean and jerked 210kg so his max jerk should be 225-230kg when training overweight. I don’t understand why people think that might be fake or need “explaining.” I also don’t understand why people doubt the 260 front squat since it is labelled as 260 and his max used to be 255 before. People are guessing what the plates are like it’s an unlabeled random video.
If the Chinese really wanted make a fake video to intimidate the crap out of people, then painting some red weights the same color or using green plates that look green instead of blue should not be any kind of hassle at all.
Gregory Fostersays
This would explain the 220 jerk, which would in fact then be 180. Much more reasonable, if not a little disappointing. I knew in my gut there was no way it was 220. I wonder if Ma Strength just screwed up the description or was having a laugh.
Edit: Crap, but I’m looking at it again and it seems like it’s more than 180. Damn, I don’t know what to believe any more!!!!
Msays
I believe the arguments for ‘fake’ are that some of the reds are 2.5kg air filled technique plates
There was a similar ‘joke’ video of a female lifter squatting a large looking amount then pressing the bar back into the rack while she giggled… that was certainly a bit of fun but not sure about this one personally… I want to believe 🙂
If it really is four reds and two blues on each side, this would be 300 kg right? 8*25=200 4*20=80 200+80+20(bar)=300 kg. The caption reads 260 kg. I don’t know how to add the plates seen in the video together to get 260 kg. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? If the blues are ten kg plates, or two of the red ones on each side are 15 kg plates, then it adds up, but that seems really strange and the colors don’t match.
wltardsays
Yeah, I see your point. A 300kg front squat at that BW would be inhuman. However, having trained in one of their national facilities in China, I can attest to the bluish off-green coloring of their 10kg zkc plates. Eitherway, Liao Hui is a genetic freak of nature and this is well within his capabilities. No need to fake for flash, unless he’s trying to scare away competition lol….
wltardsays
Yeah, I see your point. A 300kg front squat at that BW would be inhuman. However, having trained in one of their national facilities in China, I can attest to the bluish off-green coloring of their 10kg zkc plates. Eitherway, Liao Hui is a genetic freak of nature and this is well within his capabilities. No need to fake for flash, unless he’s trying to scare away competition lol….
If it really is four reds and two blues on each side, this would be 300 kg right? 8*25=200 4*20=80 200+80+20(bar)=300 kg. The caption reads 260 kg. I don’t know how to add the plates seen in the video together to get 260 kg. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? If the blues are ten kg plates, or two of the red ones on each side are 15 kg plates, then it adds up, but that seems really strange and the colors don’t match.
wltardsays
May I ask how this is fake? That is clearly four reds (200+20 from barbell) and two greens (40) on each side of the barbell, which equals 260. In their earlier video, he also very clearly rack jerked 220 wearing the same clothing (same session?). At one of their Lu and Liao seminars, Liao mentioned that his all time best front squat was 255, so 260 is not out of the question at all. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
Neil Campbellsays
He did this so easily, it seems like something is not right there. If all plates are real, then another 20-30 kg would not be out of the question. If real, unbelievable strength.
Crzyasiansays
Right? That’s the amazing thing about Olympic strength. They never really do maximal lifts where they have to fight the bar and they look like they stall at the “sticking point” like we’re so used to in say powerlifting.
Crzyasiansays
Right? That’s the amazing thing about Olympic strength. They never really do maximal lifts where they have to fight the bar and they look like they stall at the “sticking point” like we’re so used to in say powerlifting.
Neil Campbellsays
He did this so easily, it seems like something is not right there. If all plates are real, then another 20-30 kg would not be out of the question. If real, unbelievable strength.
Victorsays
Liao Hui’s getting old and mellow; he doesn’t drop this front squat PR and even didn’t drop a 220kg jerk! He wants the little whipper-snappers to keep it down in the training hall and stop thumping the weights around makin’ all that ruckus!
Victorsays
Liao Hui’s getting old and mellow; he doesn’t drop this front squat PR and even didn’t drop a 220kg jerk! He wants the little whipper-snappers to keep it down in the training hall and stop thumping the weights around makin’ all that ruckus!
dustin oranchuksays
Fake, Chinese never use red plates…
dustin oranchuksays
Fake, Chinese never use red plates…
HOgies_and_Bogiessays
Look at any other video of them squatting and they have different shades of red. The Tian Tao Back Squat, 260×6 has reds of different shades and no one said shit then.
Victorsays
When asked if some of these plates were technique plates, Ma Strength responded,
“Many of the prior in that storm people who couldn’t differentiate between pounds and kg plates, who have never seen Liao train outside of competition, and have never trained in China. Lifters try to avoid grinding reps and train high quality movement. this helps avoid injury and had better carry over to the actual lifts. Besides no one at an elite Chinese training hall uses or needs technique plates.”
May I ask how this is fake? That is clearly four reds (200+20 from barbell) and two greens (40) on each side of the barbell, which equals 260. In their earlier video, he also very clearly rack jerked 220 wearing the same clothing (same session?). At one of their Lu and Liao seminars, Liao mentioned that his all time best front squat was 255, so 260 is not out of the question at all. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
I believe the arguments for ‘fake’ are that some of the reds are 2.5kg air filled technique plates
There was a similar ‘joke’ video of a female lifter squatting a large looking amount then pressing the bar back into the rack while she giggled… that was certainly a bit of fun but not sure about this one personally… I want to believe 🙂
The bright red plates (15kg training plates) serve as spacers to put more weight at the end of the bar to create an even more intense “whip”. That’s how a lot of high level Olympians train. They place heavy plates on the outside to train timing. So that makes it 260kg ?
This would explain the 220 jerk, which would in fact then be 180. Much more reasonable, if not a little disappointing. I knew in my gut there was no way it was 220. I wonder if Ma Strength just screwed up the description or was having a laugh.
Edit: Crap, but I’m looking at it again and it seems like it’s more than 180. Damn, I don’t know what to believe any more!!!!
The Ma Strength description clearly said that Chinese athletes build a 15-20kg lead on the rack jerk over the clean and jerk and it’s accepted that Liao Hui has clean and jerked 210kg so his max jerk should be 225-230kg when training overweight. I don’t understand why people think that might be fake or need “explaining.” I also don’t understand why people doubt the 260 front squat since it is labelled as 260 and his max used to be 255 before. People are guessing what the plates are like it’s an unlabeled random video.
If the Chinese really wanted make a fake video to intimidate the crap out of people, then painting some red weights the same color or using green plates that look green instead of blue should not be any kind of hassle at all.
I agree, why lie about the lifts of the most dominant male lifter out there? He’s got no competition in his weight class and has nothing to prove. I’m just a bit obsessive about counting the weight on the bar. 🙂
I’m really psyched for Rio, if anyone can shatter some barriers it’s Liao Hui.
I agree, why lie about the lifts of the most dominant male lifter out there? He’s got no competition in his weight class and has nothing to prove. I’m just a bit obsessive about counting the weight on the bar. 🙂
I’m really psyched for Rio, if anyone can shatter some barriers it’s Liao Hui.
I meant no disrespect, and I never believed the Chinese team were intentionally fooling viewers—just that there had been some misinterpretation by Ma Strength. I fully believe Liao Hui can jerk 220. My disbelief in this particular instance came from the lack of bar bend and the apparent ease with which he re-racked it. I would love nothing more than to see Liao keep smashing records!
It’s my understanding (though I’m not 100% sure) that Ma Strength is an insider and they know what’s going on when they take the videos. I don’t think they count plates to determine the weight on a video that they just come across. I think they are told that Liao Hui is about to jerk 220, so they film and then use it as an inspirational/instructional video.
It’s my understanding (though I’m not 100% sure) that Ma Strength is an insider and they know what’s going on when they take the videos. I don’t think they count plates to determine the weight on a video that they just come across. I think they are told that Liao Hui is about to jerk 220, so they film and then use it as an inspirational/instructional video.
I meant no disrespect, and I never believed the Chinese team were intentionally fooling viewers—just that there had been some misinterpretation by Ma Strength. I fully believe Liao Hui can jerk 220. My disbelief in this particular instance came from the lack of bar bend and the apparent ease with which he re-racked it. I would love nothing more than to see Liao keep smashing records!
The Ma Strength description clearly said that Chinese athletes build a 15-20kg lead on the rack jerk over the clean and jerk and it’s accepted that Liao Hui has clean and jerked 210kg so his max jerk should be 225-230kg when training overweight. I don’t understand why people think that might be fake or need “explaining.” I also don’t understand why people doubt the 260 front squat since it is labelled as 260 and his max used to be 255 before. People are guessing what the plates are like it’s an unlabeled random video.
If the Chinese really wanted make a fake video to intimidate the crap out of people, then painting some red weights the same color or using green plates that look green instead of blue should not be any kind of hassle at all.
This would explain the 220 jerk, which would in fact then be 180. Much more reasonable, if not a little disappointing. I knew in my gut there was no way it was 220. I wonder if Ma Strength just screwed up the description or was having a laugh.
Edit: Crap, but I’m looking at it again and it seems like it’s more than 180. Damn, I don’t know what to believe any more!!!!
I believe the arguments for ‘fake’ are that some of the reds are 2.5kg air filled technique plates
There was a similar ‘joke’ video of a female lifter squatting a large looking amount then pressing the bar back into the rack while she giggled… that was certainly a bit of fun but not sure about this one personally… I want to believe 🙂
If it really is four reds and two blues on each side, this would be 300 kg right? 8*25=200 4*20=80 200+80+20(bar)=300 kg. The caption reads 260 kg. I don’t know how to add the plates seen in the video together to get 260 kg. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? If the blues are ten kg plates, or two of the red ones on each side are 15 kg plates, then it adds up, but that seems really strange and the colors don’t match.
Yeah, I see your point. A 300kg front squat at that BW would be inhuman. However, having trained in one of their national facilities in China, I can attest to the bluish off-green coloring of their 10kg zkc plates. Eitherway, Liao Hui is a genetic freak of nature and this is well within his capabilities. No need to fake for flash, unless he’s trying to scare away competition lol….
Yeah, I see your point. A 300kg front squat at that BW would be inhuman. However, having trained in one of their national facilities in China, I can attest to the bluish off-green coloring of their 10kg zkc plates. Eitherway, Liao Hui is a genetic freak of nature and this is well within his capabilities. No need to fake for flash, unless he’s trying to scare away competition lol….
If it really is four reds and two blues on each side, this would be 300 kg right? 8*25=200 4*20=80 200+80+20(bar)=300 kg. The caption reads 260 kg. I don’t know how to add the plates seen in the video together to get 260 kg. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? If the blues are ten kg plates, or two of the red ones on each side are 15 kg plates, then it adds up, but that seems really strange and the colors don’t match.
May I ask how this is fake? That is clearly four reds (200+20 from barbell) and two greens (40) on each side of the barbell, which equals 260. In their earlier video, he also very clearly rack jerked 220 wearing the same clothing (same session?). At one of their Lu and Liao seminars, Liao mentioned that his all time best front squat was 255, so 260 is not out of the question at all. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
He did this so easily, it seems like something is not right there. If all plates are real, then another 20-30 kg would not be out of the question. If real, unbelievable strength.
Right? That’s the amazing thing about Olympic strength. They never really do maximal lifts where they have to fight the bar and they look like they stall at the “sticking point” like we’re so used to in say powerlifting.
Right? That’s the amazing thing about Olympic strength. They never really do maximal lifts where they have to fight the bar and they look like they stall at the “sticking point” like we’re so used to in say powerlifting.
He did this so easily, it seems like something is not right there. If all plates are real, then another 20-30 kg would not be out of the question. If real, unbelievable strength.
Liao Hui’s getting old and mellow; he doesn’t drop this front squat PR and even didn’t drop a 220kg jerk! He wants the little whipper-snappers to keep it down in the training hall and stop thumping the weights around makin’ all that ruckus!
Liao Hui’s getting old and mellow; he doesn’t drop this front squat PR and even didn’t drop a 220kg jerk! He wants the little whipper-snappers to keep it down in the training hall and stop thumping the weights around makin’ all that ruckus!
Fake, Chinese never use red plates…
Fake, Chinese never use red plates…
Look at any other video of them squatting and they have different shades of red. The Tian Tao Back Squat, 260×6 has reds of different shades and no one said shit then.
When asked if some of these plates were technique plates, Ma Strength responded,
“Many of the prior in that storm people who couldn’t differentiate between pounds and kg plates, who have never seen Liao train outside of competition, and have never trained in China. Lifters try to avoid grinding reps and train high quality movement. this helps avoid injury and had better carry over to the actual lifts. Besides no one at an elite Chinese training hall uses or needs technique plates.”