To finish off the 3rd World University Games, Suping Meng of China set a new Clean & Jerk World Record in the Women’s +75kg category.
Taking bets on when 200kg will fall.
Thanks to Angie for submitting this.
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To finish off the 3rd World University Games, Suping Meng of China set a new Clean & Jerk World Record in the Women’s +75kg category.
Taking bets on when 200kg will fall.
Thanks to Angie for submitting this.
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Jon Frough says
Wow. It started so slow but she still threw it up and caught it! Great technique
CasualLurker says
I beg to disagree, but his technique is awful; BUT she is samson-fucking-strong. And she is not explosive either. But, one way or another, this was awesome!
CasualLurker says
Sorry, I made a mistake: “(…) but HER technique is awful” (…)”
Stephen Powell says
You are not in any position to say a woman who just set a world record has aweful technique. the Chinese teach a slow deliberate pull from the floor with quick hip extension and getting under the bar fast. A female does not clean and jerk 188 with aweful techqniue, or even bad technique. It is text book chinese technique.
CasualLurker says
And here we go again, once more: “You sir can’t make no comments about an elite lifter, because you are not one, nor a world renowned coach”. And just because it’s a world record it doesn’t means that is a masterpiece of technical execution. Look at Su Dajins catchs in the Clean; he is a world medalist, and his catch-with-the-wrist may be as well criticized; is just that people feels better being part of the heard, or they lack the character to tell their peers that they have a different (right or wrong) opinion.
I may have gone too far as to call it “awful”, but it certainly has some evident flaws that may prevent her from doing, lets say, 190kg or 192kg. I may not know to perfection the “chinese technique”, but I remember reading and analyzing, one by one, as they were coming out, Kirk’s post on lifthard (when the website template was different) and his forum discussion about Coach Wu’s teachings as well as Kirk’s own observations on chinese technique and his experience as a coach in Malaysia. On the other hand, I really admire the technical beauty and acurracy of chinese weightlifting, but I prefer the explosiveness and efectivness of russians (or “soviets”) lifters. And I would call “textbook” Lu Xiaojun’s technique, not Meng’s.
I may apologize for I had not seen the other attemps, were Meng displays more than a fair technical mastery in the lifts (she wouldn’t be lifting in the WWUUGG, nor winning them, if she didn’t), but her last attemp was not a good example of it; that being said, I remain true to my second and third statements: she is damn strong (as in, for example, standing up with the weight in the static phase of the clean, when others may get absolutely pinned down), but she lacked explosivness in the clean; IMO, that’s why she has to pull way back (people will be saying “no, it’s the chinese clean technique”… I recognize I have some pending analysis here), using her really strong posterior chain, to compensate the acceleration that is supposed to be transfered from her legs extensors. But she gets really quick under the bar, a fact that, I may grant, is a great demostration of explosivness (but, then again, in her posterior chain-flexor dominant movements) and decisive in the succes of the clean. And in the Jerk, she sends the bar in front of her, instead of straight up, but once more, she manages to save the lift.
I shall repeat, I apologize for the “awful”, but I certainly do not agree on the “great”, in respects to her technique. And I shall add that none of my comments are meant to devalue Meng as an elite weightlifer. I just come here to talk, discuss, and learn.
Stephen Powell says
Your digging a big hole here. You said her technique was aweful. you are very, very wrong. dont need a synopsis or dissertation from you to defend your comment. I learned weightlifting from the former head coach if S. Korea who has produced Olympic and world champions. Is that renowned enough for you? I have also coached 2 Olympians in weightlifting, 2 more than I bet you have. while this by no means makes me renowned it certainly gives me the discernment and wisdom to refrain from saying or even thinking a world record holder has aweful technique. Just admit you are wrong and move on.
CasualLurker says
I don’t come here to read egotisms, not to be aggressively attacked for my opinions, points of view, or analysis. I come here to LEARN, and discuss with wise, humble people; people who desire to share their knowledge and to teach me.
So, I’ll pass, Mister. I bow to your experience, to your teachers, to your olympians, and to your discernment and wisdom. I’m sorry for bothering you with my usless synopsis and dissertations. I’m as well sorry for admiting I used a strong, wrong adjective, but you should mind that some of us can and will admit our errors.
If you please, I would be very grateful if you ignore my comments on the future, in this website. Thanks.
Stephen Powell says
Someone’s getting a wee bit sensitive here. You don’t come here to learn. You make objective statements like you know what your talking about. Who has the Ego? One who says a world record holder has aweful technique or someone pointing out the absurdity of this statement? who has aggressively attacked you? If you want to learn then ask and be hunble instead of asserting an opinion that is incorrect. There was nothing in your original statement that suggests you wish to learn and discuss. Make comments like that again and expect to be called out. So thank you.
Trollface says
I agree, that’s by far not a good technique, I thought she’s going to sleep in the first pull. Can only handle the weight cause of her weight. Nothing special, not an awesome technique, nothing. So what?
Stephen Powell says
Like I told Casual you are not in a position to say its bad or not good technique. If a female is capable of Sr world records you do not hava bad technique. That 188 was obviously her max effort and some little flaws are there but it is not bad technique. it is text book chinese technique which has 3 basic parts. Sweep bar, punch hips rip under. thats what she did. So what? B/c someone said she had aweful technique which is not true and in reality a lifter can’t set world records with bad technique. Make statements like that then back it up.
UmadBrah says
So, you must be in a position to say it’s good technique. Tell us about your record breaking lifts.
GregorATG says
This is not YouTube. Try to add value with your comments (and pick better nicknames, none of that brah shit.)
alex says
man, i thought weightlifting coaches were the kind of calm people who burst only when things don’t go well for their athletes in training… i mean, the amount of senseless statements this coach makes is just incredible…i saw the same type of comments from a 15 year old girl
sporting says
Am I the only one that enjoys the “chinese” clean technique? Looks very controlled and serene with the bar extremely close to the body. Phenomenal second pull too.
Alex Gorham says
I absolutely love love love it. Trying my best to emulate it, when you see it in slow motion is just looks so beautiful, they’re so fast to get under it. I just can’t work out how to do it properly… They seem to pull it really, really far up their hips, almost to Snatch height. Beautiful stuff.
Simon Klimesh says
I thought her clean technique was very good (modern and the way I would teach it), although she drove the jerk forward she still managed to complete the lift.
David Griffin says
This means that all of the women’s superheavy world records have been broken in the same year by 3 different people. When was the last time that happened (in any weight category). 2013 worlds should be interesting!